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Larry Gelbart

Writer/Producer/Director

“It is very necessary to retain your identity as an artist and your identity as a human being... Just keep fighting for what you’re about and what your work is about. You are what you do, you know.”

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On his reputation as a writer with deep social conscience, Gelbart says "I was very lucky.  It is not everybody that gets a vehicle like M*A*S*H, in which for four straight years you can be on a soap box and hopefully not abuse that position." Larry Gelbart (1928-2009) was an Emmy-award winning writer, producer, and director, whose career began with the Golden Age of radio, but is perhaps best-known for being the mastermind behind the television series M*A*S*H .  His father's barbershop was a gathering place for many comics including Danny Thomas, who agreed to give the young Gelbart a huge break in his career while he was still in high-school, writing for Thomas on the radio. On hearing his words performed in front of an audience for the first time, Gelbart recalls "I remember that rush of hearing a couple of hundred people laugh" and was hooked. He talks about the structure of how the writers would put together Bob Hope's monologues, and touring with the comedian during his USO tours. Gelbart was there for the transition from radio to television in the early '50s, leaving the "Bob Hope Radio Show" to work for Red Buttons, and says of the change in his writing style "It was working with Red that I really found out that a sketch had to have some progression, that it really had a structure.  And that was invaluable." He then talks about the Caesar's Hour writer's room, working with such comedy greats as Mel Tolkin, Carl Reiner, Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, and Sid Caesar. He talks briefly about his time in London, his successful play "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum", the Marty Feldman Comedy Machine ,and the difference between television in the UK and the US. Gelbart talks at length about his successful years co-producing and writing for M*A*S*H , and specifically working with producer Gene Reynolds and series star Alan Alda. He talks about some of the battles with Network Standards & Practices, and how they managed to win some (like finally getting the word "virgin" on air) but lose others (like the use of a laugh track, which CBS wanted). He chronicles the filming of the episode "Abyssinia, Henry" in which a main character dies, and his decision to keep the ending a secret from the cast and crew. He also discusses his work in feature films and Broadway plays, including Mastergate , and his return to television with United States:a comedy series about marriage and divorce. He acknowledges that while he is very proud of his AfterMash series, that the formula did not work as a comedy. He talks briefly about the Writer's Guild Strike in 1985, during which time he was the writer of the Academy Awards , and his feelings about the union. He credits HBO with giving him much support over his TV movie projects Barbarians at the Gate and Weapons of Mass Distraction . He talks about his memoir, Laughing Matters, and his advice to young writers. On what represents to him the "best" of television, Gelbart says "When it unites us, as it has in the past, I think it serves a tremendous function-- turning the country into a family." Larry Gelbart was interviewed in Los Angeles, CA on May 26, 1998; Dan Harrison conducted the three-and-a-half-hour interview.

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  • Larry Gelbart on what to him represented the best of television; those moments when it brought the country together as a family, as in the Kennedy funeral, or the Challenger launch, and how we're in danger of losing that ability in favor of 'the bottom line'
  • Larry Gelbart on his advice to writers: "maintain your identity as an artist"
  • Larry Gelbart on how he feels lucky to have had the opportunity to have a soap box on national television with  M*A*S*H where he could speak his mind
  • Larry Gelbart on learning the value of "having fun with language" as a writer on Duffy's Tavern

Watch By Chapter

  • Chapter 1
  • On his childhood, listening to the old radio shows and watching comedians like Milton Berle at the Chicago theaters as well as on television; on his parents and their sense of humor
  • On getting his first break writing for Danny Thomas while still in high school
  • On getting signed to the William Morris Agency; working on Duffy's Tavern, the Joan Davis Show, and honing his writing chops
  • On getting drafted to the Army and being stationed in Hollywood with the Armed Forces Radio Service; continuing to write, then going to work for Bob Hope when his service term was over
  • Chapter 2
  • On writing for Bob Hope, the process and structure of putting together a Hope monologue; touring the world with the comedian
  • On the transition from radio to television, and the way he changed his writing style working for Red Buttons
  • On working on the reknown comedy series Caesar's Hour, for Sid Caesar
  • On a host of famous writers to come out of the Caesar's Hour writing room: Mel Brooks, Carl Reiner, Neil Simon, Selma Diamond, and later, Woody Allen
  • Chapter 3
  • On Caesar's Hour ; the writers and cast of the show
  • On working on other projects; on the Hollywood Blacklist; The Art Carney Special;
  • On his play "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum"; The Danny Kaye Special
  • On moving to London; working on the Marty Feldman Comedy Machine
  • Chapter 4
  • On the film M*A*S*H , its influence on the series, and the real 8055th MASH unit
  • On writing the pilot for M*A*S*H , casting the show
  • On dealing with CBS and censorship issues, scheduling issues the first season of M*A*S*H
  • On putting an acutal epsiode of M*A*S*H together; the process, technical considerations; the writers, directors and crew 
  • On Alan Alda and his contribution to M*A*S*H;  on Wayne Rogers
  • Chapter 5
  • On the cast of M*A*S*H ; McLean Stevenson, Harry Morgan, Mike Farrell, Loretta Swit, Larry Linville, William Christopher, Jamie Farr
  • On writing a second pilot for the second season of M*A*S*H to reintroduce the characters
  • On a second series he worked on with Gene Reynolds concurrently with M*A*S*H: Roll Out about WWII; On the success of the second season of MASH ; despite fights with the network over the timeslot
  • On the memorable  M*A*S*H episode "Abyssinia, Henry" of where one of the main characters dies which they kept a secret from cast and crew; and the response to the episode from the cast and fans
  • On the filming of the episode "The Interview" of M*A*S*H and why they kept the ending a secret from the cast
  • Chapter 6
  • On leaving M*A*S*H to seek out new challenges
  • On working on the movie "Oh, God!"; originally written for Woody Allen and Mel Brooks in mind
  • On the series United States
  • On the unsuccessful series AfterMash
  • On the Writer's Strike in 1985, during which time Gelbart was supposed to write the Academy Awards show
  • On his Broadway musical "City of Angels"
  • On his HBO adaptation of "Barbarians at the Gate"; about a Wall Street takeover of a company
  • On his HBO original movie Weapons of Mass Distraction, whick poked fun at the nation's preoccupation with tabloids; credits Bob Cooper for giving him free reign over the project
  • On his off-Broadway satire "Mastergate" based on the idea of Washington taking over a studio
  • On his screen adaptation of the musical "Chicago"; set to star Goldie Hawn and Madonna; on "Fast Track" about stock car racing
  • On "Laughing Matters"- an autobiographical memoir 
  • On his advice to young writers; on how he feels lucky to have been given the opportunity to have a soapbox on national television for four years with M*A*S*H
  • Chapter 7
  • On the past and future of television; the best and worst it can offer
  • On people he's known and worked with: Danny Kaye, Bill Manhoff, Hy Averback, Bob Hope, Milton Berle, Jack Paar, and others
  • On people he's known and worked with: Danny Kaye, Silvia Fine, Red Buttons, Art Carney, Sid Caesar, others
  • On people he's known and worked with:Alan Alda, William Self, William Paley, Gene Reynolds, Burt Metcalfe, others
  • On his father, mother
  • Chapter 8
  • On his grandson, Sasha; on being grateful to have been interviewed

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  • Academy Awards, The
    • Clip 1
  • AfterMASH
    • Clip 1
  • Art Carney Specials
    • Clip 1
  • Barbarians at the Gate
    • Clip 1
  • Caesar’s Hour
    • Clip 1
    • Clip 2
    • Clip 3
    • Clip 4
    • Clip 5
    • Clip 6
  • Danny Kaye Show The
    • Clip 1
  • Duffy’s Tavern
    • Clip 1
  • M*A*S*H
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    • Clip 2
    • Clip 3
    • Clip 4
    • Clip 5
    • Clip 6
    • Clip 7
    • Clip 8
    • Clip 9
    • Clip 10
    • Clip 11
    • Clip 12
    • Clip 13
    • Clip 14
    • Clip 15
    • Clip 16
  • Marty Feldman Comedy Machine, The
    • Clip 1
  • Red Buttons Show, The
    • Clip 1
  • Roll Out!
    • Clip 1
  • United States
    • Clip 1
  • Your Show of Shows
    • Clip 1

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  • Alan Alda
  • Woody Allen
  • Hy Averback
  • Mel Brooks
  • Gary Burghoff
  • Abe Burrows
  • Red Buttons
  • Sid Caesar
  • Art Carney
  • William Christopher
  • Bob Cooper
  • Jackie Cooper
  • Selma Diamond
  • Nanette Fabray
  • Jamie Farr
  • Mike Farrell
  • Everett Greenbaum
  • Bob Hope
  • Danny Kaye
  • Perry Lafferty
  • Ring Lardner, Jr.
  • Larry Linville
  • Burt Metcalfe
  • Harry Morgan
  • Howard Morris
  • Jack Paar
  • Edward R. Murrow
  • Stanley Ralph Ross
  • Carl Reiner
  • Gene Reynolds
  • Wayne Rogers
  • William S. Paley
  • Fred Silverman
  • Phil Silvers
  • Neil Simon
  • Ray Stark
  • McLean Stevenson
  • David Susskind
  • Loretta Swit
  • Danny Thomas
  • Mel Tolkin

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